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Saturday,
September 7. 2002 14:26:18
Thank
you for sharing with others some glimpses into your visually
challenged world. I have a son with RP. He was diagnosed at
age 4 and has now just started his first year of college.
There are probably some disadvantages to his having been diagnosed
at such a young age. For instance, I know I have been overly
protective of him and probably prevented him from experiencing
some things. On the other hand, he has pretty much always
known that his eyes see things differently from the way others
do. I just e-mailed him about this website so that he can
share it with others at his college. Perhaps it will enable
them to understand our son better and for him to feel less
isolated as an individual with RP. I still hold out hope that
some of the cutting edge research being done on retinal diseases
will one day find a way to treat RP and restore functional
vision.
--Stella
Wednesday,
September 4, 2002 12:47:06
Dear Joel
and Michael,
My name is Chris Santangelo and I am an actor living in NYC.
I'm currently working on a play "Butterflies Are Free" and
my character, Don Baker, has been blind from birth. I've been
researching as much as I can, volunteering at the Lighthouse
for the Blind in NYC. In order for me to portray this young
man truthfully, he also happens to be a guitar player, there
are many questions that I have with regards to the different
ways that visual impaired people do everyday things, such
as maneuver around their apartment, prepare meals, pour liquid
into glasses, smoke cigarettes(only because the play calls
for it), etc. The more information i get the more I can find
my own way into the reality of the play. Can you answer any
of these questions for me or are there other sites that might
be able to assist me. I'd greatly appreciate any help you
can give me. I hope I've been clear and respectful to you.
-- Chris
Santangelo
Tuesday,
September 3, 2002, 14:32:00
I have
been living with RP for most of my life. But, of course, for
most of my life I didn't know why I had trouble running through
the forest at night when I was at summer camp, why I couldn't
catch a baseball as well as other kids, why I couldn't play
basketball, hockey, soccer, or football at all because I couldn't
see my teammates or the opposition around me. I just knew
I couldn't see very well. When I was in my early 20s I was
officially diagnosed. I didn't get it at the time because
I felt I could still see as well as everyone else. I went
on with my life and ignored the signs until about three years
ago when I went to the eye doctor for new contact lenses and
he rediagnosed me. I was angry that he felt it was his duty
to reminded me about this "eye problem" I had forgotten about.
Apparently it had worsened and he wanted me to undergo the
visual field tests. That's when it hit the fan. The results
were a greater loss than I had thought, and one of several
doctors I saw even diagnosed me as "legally blind" which,
it turns out, is a nice, convenient term most applicable to
homeowners who are looking for tax breaks, not a medical term.
So, I continue on with my "blind stripe" as I call it. I have
central vision, I have extreme peripheral vision (somewhat
muddied), and a band of black that falls inbetween. Kind of
annoying when walking through a crowd filled with small children,
or a hallway with a cat lying on the floor. (Although, it's
probably more annoying to the cat who gets the tip of my shoe
driven into its side by accident!) I have countless small
wounds on my shins, calves and knees from the corners of tables,
I have a scar on my forehead from a kitchen cabinet door left
open, I stopped counting how many times I bent over to pick
something up and forgot that there was a table, or shelf,
or even a radiator between me and the item I dropped, and
I have occasional bruising on my shoulders from bumping back
and forth inside door frames like a pin ball. Sometimes I
look like I've been playing rugby with men the size of Mack
trucks. At least I know now that it's not because I'm a klutz.
I can tell people that I have RP, and that's why I ran into
them and spilled their drink. If you don't have RP, you'd
be surprised how many times that statement has diffused a
tense situation between myself and a 250-pound ham-fisted
man-child in a bar. Anyway, my greatest fear is that, as a
photographer, writer and amateur guitar player much like Joel,
I will lose the only thing that was ever important to me,
the only thing I was ever good at: creative expression. Have
you ever seen the work of a blind photographer? I haven't,
and I suspect there's a reason for that. However, it does
help me very much to see that Joel didn't give up writing.
I think that if I couldn't write, I would have no choice but
to drop out of society and live in the mountains in a run-down
cabin and eat whatever berries happen to fall at my doorstep.
Thank you, Joel, for choosing to share this with others who
may feel alone in the dark.
-- Dave
Adams
Tuesday, September 3, 2002, 18:45:32
Comment:
My Dad has this eye disease, but also has no peripheral vision.
He is 76 years old and no longer drives. How can I make his
navigating easier or what tools can I buy to aid him? I wish
I could see what he sees ( or doesn't). Thank you!
-- Judy
Collins
Monday,
August 26, 2002, 11:40:46
one of
my best friends has rp. i try to make it a point of taking
him places he might want to see, while he still can. i read
menus for him, and try to watch out for him so that he doesn't
run into people, fall, or that sort of thing. i worry about
doing too much, though, and making him feel embarrassed or
self-concious. i know that you cannot speak for him, but i
would appreciate any insight you might be able to give me
as to how the person with rp might feel. when we're walking
in someplace dark, i put my hand on his shoulder and also
give him verbal direction. he's my friend, and i want to help
him, but i also don't want to make him feel like an invalid.
thanks, and good luck to you. thanks for your time, and for
opening my eyes with your sit.
-- jj2aday
Wednesday,
14 August, 2002 11:42:10
Joel &
Michael,
Hello, one hundred thank you's for this invaluable website!
My 43 year old husband also has RP as does his brother and
several cousins and his 7 year old nephew is showing signs
of it. Your story and visual aid of vision loss over time
in a person with RP really helped me understand what my husband
is "seeing". He has tried to explain so many times but my
actually being able to see visuals of it helps me to understand
even better. Your life story and my husband's are so very
much a like....He like you procrastinated giving up his drivers
license until he absolutely HAD to and it was truly a sad
day for him and me. That was almost a year ago now. He was
officially declared legally blind in Jan. 02 but insists on
staying in the work force for as long as he can, which many
people find quite commendable as do I. His company has been
trying to force Mike out for the last 8 months stating "Safety
issues" as their main concern. Mike called the Assoc. for
the Blind one day to inqu! ire about his rights and they stepped
right in and went to bat for him. They assigned him a representative
who in turn went into his company and informed them of the
laws and the company is working now to conform to those laws.
They've painted white lines around his work area, installed
lights where needed and allows Mike to be trained on company
time, with a mobility instructor, in using a cane. And please
don't think for one minute that this was at all easy on him....he
for years and years tried to "hide" his disability but now
that its finally out in the open with his employer, he feels
like a big weight has been taken off of his shoulders. He
is just starting to become more comfortable using and being
seen with a cane at his workplace (after 2 months) but is
slower at using it around immediate family members....but
I know he eventually will but at his own pace, which I respect.
And I have to be painfully honest myself and admit that I
feel "weird" being with him when h! e is using his cane as
its a big adjustment for myself as well as him; we are in
this together, and I know together we will make it and he
appreciates my being able to express my feelings so we can
work things out together. I don't know how many years he has
left before he won't be able to make out any shape or form
but I am praying every day that a cure will be found and I
really have hope with the stem cell research and keep trying
to instill that in him for someday there will be a cure, especially
the way the reseachers are working their hearts out. I apologize
that this is so long, but again I thank you and I will make
sure that my husband see's this site as well. He should find
some comfort in hearing about another person that shares his
disability. Good luck Joel and if I may could I keep you abreast
of my husband's progress with his work adjustments and home
adjustments? I would also like you to keep sharing yours.
Thank you again.
-- Connie
Sunday,
August 11, 2002 at 23:19:03
Hi Joel,
I am writing in regards to my son who is twelve years old.
He was diagnosed with RP about a year ago. I wanted to know
if you had any advice for me to help him through the challenges
he will face or if there is any thing I should do with him
now while he still has pretty good site. Here is a little
background about him. He favorite hobbies are skate boarding,
drawing, playing on the computer and listening to music. He
is a black belt in karate and a very good student. Over the
past he has lost an interest in reading, he says that it just
takes to long and it is boring reading so slow. School friendships
are hard because the kids all play sports at recess and lunch
and ball sports are just to challenging. We were at a beach
party this weekend and all the kids struck up a game of football.
He felt bad about not being able to participate. He stomped
off by himself thinking nobody liked him. Orientation has
been also a challange, particularly at night. My! current
philosphy has been to try and build is self esteem and give
him lots of love so that he will face the challenges that
await him. I would appreciate any advice you might have for
me. Thanks.
-- Sue
Joel replies:
Dear Sue,
I was very touched by your message. Sorry that you've had
to wait for my reply, but it unfortunately arrived during
someone's vacation time, and was forwarded to me immediately
on their return. Though I have no children, I think I can
easily appreciate your son's frustration and your desire not
only to learn all you can about RP, but to help him build
a firm emotional and practical foundation for the future,starting
day by day. He sounds like an active, spirited youngster and
your concern for him is very clear. fortunately, I have one
specific suggestion for you that I think will provide not
just information but also understanding and support. this
is the Internet mailing list forum known as the RP List. It
is very active, with hundreds of subscribers who live not
only in the United states but in the U.K., Europe, Asia and
Latin America. Lest that subscriber count seem daunting, be
reassured that not everyone participates every day or all
at once. If you subscribe to the RP List,which is free of
charge, you will automatically receive messages posted to
the list by other members. If you just sit back and read each
day's messages for a time, you'll see that there are all kinds
of people confronting all degrees of vision loss and helping
each other understand and cope with all conceivable challenges.
you'll also be kept up to date on the progress of medical
and scientific research into the causal factors of RP and
the many avenues of research into potential remedies. Most
of all, you'll find yourself in a conversation with people
from their teens to their senior years, including more than
a few parents in your very situation, discussing the same
issues that you find facing you today. The tone of the list
is warm, supportive and congenial, even when there are disagreements
from time to time. It's a great atmosphere. I myself have
learned most of what I understand medically, and learned to
manage my life with RP, more due to being subscribed to the
RP List than to any other source of help or information. I
should add that, besides an intelligent, supportive group
of people with RP sharing their good and bad times, there
are medical and scientific experts subscribed and always ready
to contribute reliable knowledge about retinal degeneration.
I hope you'll subscribe to this mailing list at least for
a while and give it a chance. Here's how you'd do that: Just
address an email to listserv@maelstrom.stjohns.edu and, leaving
the subject line of your email blank, type only this in the
message area: subscribe (your name as you'd like to have it
seen when you post a message to the list) rplist --without
the parentheses, of course Very quickly, you'll receive a
confirming email with additional instructions. Do what these
notices say and you'll be subscribed. I thank you for writing
to me, and wish you and your boy the very best. He's lucky
to have you caring so well for him. Now I think you will find
some of the help and new knowledge you need, as well as some
well-deserved comfort, if you join the exemplary cyber-community
of the RP List.
Regards,
Joel Deutsch
Friday,
July 26, 2002 at 22:38:43
Hello...I am writing because somehow through exhaustive internet
research I found your site, Joel... I was excited by the depiction
of what happened in your eyes. I have been so frustrated trying
to explain to my husband what I have been seeing...Mine is
about at your 10 year mark....Just trying to explain the "shower
curtain" thing didn't work...I felt bad after I showed him
your depiction because he cried...he would rather be blind
himself than to sit helpless and watch me do it. I have retinal
vasculitis...major drugs that have morphed me into someone
else..Your story about driving I will have to say made me
mad at first becuase I do not want to be dependant...I keep
telling myself that as long as I drive in town where I don't
have to look at road signs that I am not a danger..after all..
I'm not drunk or senile or distracted...I pay very close attention...This
stuff sucks and you have helped me be able to tell my husband
that it's not safe anymore..even though! it will be a great
burden on him..I would die if I hurt someone due to pride..Hard
call..I am much luckier than you in many ways because I have
a soul mate that is sufferering more than I am because he
can't do anything about it..plus he has to come to the realization
that for the rest of his life it will be a major adjustment...he
is a guy after all and his detail brain lacks...It's an adjustment
to me going blind..for both of us...he thinks he can't tell
me that he is angry that suddenly, if someone needs to drive,
that he has to do it...if someone needs to walk across the
street, he has to help me...he didn't sign up for this, but
he thinks he can't tell me that it's just as hard for him
as it is for me...After reading your dating story...my comment
to Kent was..."see how lucky I am?" God bless you for your
eloquent prose and story of courage and hope..Godspeed..
-Tammy
Thursday,
July 25, 2002 at 21:57:24
I am
so impressed with the exploratorium for including this in
their site. Joel, your writing is superb. I am gradually losing
sight myself, but as luck would have it so far, only in one
eye. Even losing half my sight has been a challenge. I have
feared becoming completely blind, but have also known that
somehow if it happened I would survive and learn to be happy.
Both the facts on adaptive technologies and your beautifully
written thoughts are so very appreciated. I have come across
a lot of information on the web, but none of it has been in
the least bit personal or emotionally engaging. Great job
raising awareness! Thanks so much and good luck to you.
-Bobbie
Wood
Tuesday,
July 23, 2002 at 23:31:07
I'm 47,
diagnosed with RP (tunnel vision) at age 30. It sucks but
that's life. What are you going to do ? Giving up on driving
has easily been the worst part. My last car was a gift to
myself, I knew it would be my last. I loved competing in autocross
and won many events, that's all gone now. Lest you think I
wallow in self pity,don't,I have a beautiful daughter and
two grandsons,six and two, that make my life fulfilling. Fully
paid retirement eases the effects of the disease as well.
I truly believe they will find some kind of actual help for
us in our lifetime. I just hope I don't have to go back to
work !
- Owen
Scott
Tuesday,
July 23, 2002 at 13:47:18
Hi, I
was given your site by my eye doctor, he felt you and a very
clear way to explain what was happening to me as well what
would happen. Althought it has taken me a few weeks to look
at the site, as I was scared I finally came today. I now have
a better understanding, and it scares me to death. I am a
43 year old female who has been been wearing glass since I
was in the 5 th grade. My last exam I told the doctor about
this burriness that had been happening the sevarl years and
was happening more and more. After some test and a second
evaluation I was told I have retinitis pigmentosa, and there
is not a lot that can be done at this time. I have lost some
a lot of my outer vision, (sorry can't spell that word) and
burriness comes to me after I have been writing or spend a
lot of time reading. I love art and writing I do a lot of
art work on my computer as well as take pictures. I am real
scared, I have not told any one close to me, as I do not want
pitty. But now I feel after ! watching the video I need to
tell them as it dose not seem fair for me to build on a new
relationship with out letting them know. I know one thing
I have not come as far as I have in my life to let this get
me... but I need be honset with them and myself so thank you
for being here and for the great job you have done expalining
this. I will be sharing it with them too.
-bryce
Wednesday,
July 17, 2002 at 11:52:09
Hi Joel,
I'm writing because my mom has wet macular degeneration. She
has only peripheral vision now - the loss began at age 57,
and she's now 62. I wanted to ask you if there are websites
or other services for the legally blind, and anything you
know of that could help her in using a PC? She took up painting
a few years ago, and would like to be able to put up a simple
website with some of her work. Also, what if anything do you
know about Braille? (sp) For some reason, I can't find anything.
Maybe I'm spelling it wrong:-) Thanks for any info you might
have.
-Tracy
Austin
Tuesday,
July 16, 2002 at 21:12:28
Comment:
Great site, great concept, great way of talking about "disability",
but when are we gonna see subtitled/ captioned versions of
the videos you have in this site? I am Deaf you see.
-Tony
Nicholas
Sunday,
July 14, 2002 at 05:11:53
I run
a Private Daycare and for my summer program of older children.
I have chosen that they learn and understand the value of
their vision and especially the understanding of children
that cannot see. I thank you kindly for the use of this site.
-Kaye
Wednesday,
July 3, 2002 at 06:53:39
You had
a defining moment that forced your decision to stop driving.
I think about my grandmother, an elderly friend of the family,
my now-deceased Aunt J.V., all of whom should have stopped
driving years ago. Their reflexes are too slow, their vision
too impaired. Really, it's not safe. Yet, I try to imagine
myself turning in my license, as you had to on that day, never
to drive again. I think more than anything it would be the
loss of power over myself that I would miss the most. I cannot
drive my elderly friends and relatives to their every appointment,
run them on their errands, take them to visit their friends,
God forbid they should want to just go somewhere to do something
useless and fun, like fishing! So, these days, I try to ease
my foot off the gas pedal, and cruise along behind that elderly
slow driver. Does it really matter if I get home 5 minutes
later?
-Jennifer
Van Gilder
Sunday,
June 30, 2002 at 14:45:01
i feel
very sorry for you. I hope that someone out there will find
a cure for you.
-darren
ngo
Saturday,
June 29, 2002 at 14:13:31
i like
this because it is very easy to learn and we all like to do
these type of things.
-Reth
Meas
Tuesday,
June 25, 2002 at 21:39:23
Hi Joel.
I just wanted to let you know what a most extraordinary teacher
you are. You have shared the challenge you have faced in losing
your vision and turned your experience into a lesson on how
to treasure and savor what we do have. Your friends are lucky
to know you. And those who stumble upon your site have discovered
a jewel on the Net. I write this in true admiration of a man
who sees with his heart and soul.
-Scott
Miller
Thursday,
June 20, 2002 at 18:59:43
Wonderfully
written. I know precisely how you feel and could never ecxpress
it as effectively. Thanks for sharing this with us all.
-Byron
Thursday,
June 20, 2002 at 21:06:05
There
may be help for you eyesight. It is the juice from a fruit
grown in the tropics. It has restored sight for people suffering
from Iris Idis, macular degeneration, cateracts, etc. It has
been used in India for over 4,000 years and by islanders in
the Sooth Pacific for over 2,000 years. The highest qualiity
is called Tahitian Noni Juice. Go to the website below and
the odds are very high you will find at least one (and probably
more) testimonials on it helping people and their eyesight.
I have other testimonials, information from doctors, scientists
and research information on it if you are interested. Since
Morinda refunds 100% of your cost if you are not completely
satisfied, there is NO finanical risk. Plus they are the FASTEST
growing company in the last 20 years with sales in excess
of $32,000,000 a month so it must work! http://incc.org/ I
wish you the best!
-Neil
Reinhardt
A
vision researcher replies:
In
the last few years, a wide variety of wholesome and therapeutic
properties have been attributed to noni juice, made from the
fruit of the Morinda citrifolia and marketed by the Morinda
company: Noni juice has been claimed to suppress tumor growth,
boost the immune system, and have powerful antioxidant properties.
Few of these claims have been rigorously tested, however,
and the peer-reviewed literature counts fewer than a half
dozen papers; these papers document the efficacy of noni juice
in suppressing the growth and proliferation of certain tumors.
As best I can ascertain, Dr. Reinhardt was not involved in
any of these publications, but he has published widely in
the popular press.
It
is plausible that noni juice may be of some benefit in preventing
AMD and other diseases of aging, but it is not clear if and
why it might have a beneficial effect on inherited degenerative
conditions such as RP. What is clear, though, is that noni
juice has a sophisticated publicity machinery promoting it,
or it would not have reached close to a half billion dollars
in annual sales in about 6 years.
Before
adding retinal degeneration patients to the converts, the
Morinda company and its PR should invest a substantial portion
of their sales volume in high quality research, and demonstrate
how their product can benefit these patients.
Gislin
Dagnelie, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Lions Vision Research & Rehab Center
Johns Hopkins Univ. Sch. of Medicine
Thursday,
June 20, 2002 at 14:06:38
I thought
your story was inspirational and touching in every way.. you
are an icon to kid around the world. Thank you. Bye
-Shaquita
Morrison
Wednesday,
June 19, 2002 at 17:48:41
Michael
and Joel: My hat is off to both of you! To Michael, for asking
so many of the right questions, and to Joel, for being so
candid. You have done an amazing job capturing many facets
of Joel's life, and especially those that we, the sighted,
often wonder about. Moreover, the site looks great, and has
good information about this mysterious process called retinal
degeneration. If I can make one suggestion, it would be to
add some links to organizations that provide more specific
information about the genetics and possible treatments, to
organizations that provide support to patients and their families,
and to organizations that sponsor research to find treatments
for these disorders. But most of all, I hope that they will
add links to this unique presentation of Joel's world. Thanks
so much to both of you!
-Gislin
Dagnelie,
Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Lions Vision Research & Rehab Center
Johns Hopkins Univ. Sch. of Medicine
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